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Application Preparation and Case Processing - Minutes 09-09-2003

Steering Group #2:  The Process

Meeting #2:  September 8, 2003

 

 

ATTENDEES

(This list may have missed one or two, who didn’t have a chance to sign the sign-in sheet)

 


Alicia Harrison

Andy Caldwell

Anita Hodosy

Anne Almy

Berto von Veen

Catherine Dunbar

David Ward

Florence Trotter-Cadena

Jack Boysen

Jessica Kinnahan

Lanny Stableford

Laurel Perez

Mark Manion

Nick Foster

Paul Poirer

Peter Lawson

Robin Brady

Tom Frutchey

Trevor Estlow


 

AGENDA

·        Introduction of Members

·        Recap of Kickoff Meeting

·        Coordination

·        Ministerial vs Discretionary

·        Key Areas to Focus On

 

ISSUES/CONCERNS

·        North County intake different from South County

·        Difficulty of determining conformance with policies/ordinances

·        True list of ministerial permits vs discretionary

·        How to make our systems simpler

·        Conflict between comprehensive plan and community plans

·        Policies in community plans being applied generally, e.g., Toro Canyon Creek setbacks

·        Further complication added by internal, administerial policies

·        Community plans have policies that are too complex; only comprehensive planners understand them; they then enter into the permitting process making judgments and further complicating the review

·        Same problems year after year (one productive activity may be to go back and review prior analyses)

·        Clear, easy to implement ordinances; we don't need so many additional staff policy papers and interpretations

·        We don't have checklists of criteria, consistent format (include COPs)

·        Any interpretations (e.g. tree grading and slope determination) should go to the BoS

·        The trade-offs of countywide versus community-specific ordinances and policies; minimum standards (e.g. Santa Ynez grading)

·        We need countywide objective-criteria based approach to key issues relating to ministerial permits, for countywide needs (e.g., agriculture)

·        Standards for residential (e.g. slope) development are different from those for agriculture

·        GPACs should not be impacting countywide standards and zoning

·        We should pull resource protection policies out of community plans and use the appropriate General Plan element

·        Complexity due in part to overlays of federal/California/county requirements. For example, why should the county have its own Tiger Salamander protection policies where the feds and state already have theirs?

·        Resource protection is trumping ordinances

·        There is a disconnect between Comp and Dev Rev (e.g., in small communities it's the same person, so the community's vision and goals are consistently supported by permitters)

·        There is enough discretion that applicants who object are being penalized

·        Review the process flow chart (the "you can't make chicken soup with chicken s---" analogy)

·        We need better coordination with Board of Supervisors

·        Option: "Ministerial" => "Administrative"

-         Remove discretionary and the findings

-         Without creating third category

·        Case processing problems:

-         Transfers of planners

-         No accountability

-         No time limit adhered to

-         Changing interpretations

·        The system and its components have to work for the contractor, s/he needs to know if a project is permitted. One option: turn over plans by licensed architects to Building and Safety

·        Not legal or fair for BoS to delegate its discretion to staff

·        Bare minimum criteria

·        Benchmark

·        Zoning Ordinance definitions of what should be ministerial

·        Order of required approvals:  Dev Rev => B&S  => PW Roads => EHS

·        Intake log

 

NEXT STEPS/AREAS OF INITIAL FOCUS

·        Review the process flow chart (Jack, Tom)

·        The ordinances and policies that we have to work with in designing the process (Paul)

·        Bare minimum criteria (Mark, Anne)

·        Benchmark (Dave, Laurel)

·        Accela categorization of current permits, if needed (Florence)

·        Zoning Ordinance definitions of what should be ministerial (Jessica, Trevor)

·        Order of required approvals (Laurel/Peter L./Cathy) Dev Rev => B&S  => PW Roads => EHS

·        Intake log (Florence/Petra/Paul)



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